The Bin Laden Video: Democrat Talking Points?
Written on October 29, 2004
Reading over excerpts from the new bin Laden videotape, we find there are some very interesting parallels between what bin Laden says, and what our esteemed leftist icons have said. See if you notice the similarities as well…
Please note that we’re tired, so what you see is all we could find before going to sleep. I’m sure others will find many more. If you do, please let us know so we can update this list.
UPDATE 30 Oct 11:33AM
We only had access to a partial transcript from the Washington Post. It appears more complete transcripts have been made available. As soon as we can read the full transcript, I’m sure we’ll have more.
Also, NewsMax hit on this topic as well: Bin Laden Adopts Democrat Talking Points
UPDATE 30 Oct 12:40PM
Added Thom’s list from his LGF comment. Also added sources to each quote referenced so you can see it for yourself.
UPDATE 30 Oct 1:06PM
Added Blogs for Bush’s list with sources.
UPDATE 30 Oct 1:11PM
Thom aptly comments on LGF: “Osama bin Laden: John Kerry without the great hair or bogus health plan.”
UPDATE 31 OCT 2:21PM
Zombie has a list as well, showing exclusively John Kerry’s quotes beside Osama bin Laden’s. Meant to link it last night, but in the rush I forgot — sorry! Zombie’s list is tightly focused on John Kerry himself, as he is the one running for president. Also, I can wholeheartedly concur with his comments on LGF that finding these quotes from John Kerry was not an easy task…
UPDATE 31 OCT 2:31PM
Added a missing citation link for JohnKerry.com — and surprise! We found another Kerry quote, from his own website, accusing Bush of lying. Whodathunkit?
THEME: Bush Lied
Osama bin Laden:
“I am surprised by you. Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons are still there to repeat what happened.”
John Kerry:
“Unfortunately, in its desperate attempts to reinvent a rationale for the Iraq war, this White House has repeatedly chosen to mislead the American people.” (CNN)
John Kerry:
“Kerry warned an audience of veterans that President Bush has misled the country on everything from the war to the economy and had broken promises to veterans needing health care.” [commentary from JohnKerry.com, the Official Campaign Website]
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“This administration has yet to level with the American people.” [actual Kerry quote] (Official Campaign Website)
John Edwards:
“Every day, we learn something new about how things are going terribly wrong in Iraq. And more details come out about how George Bush misled this country and took his focus from Osama bin Laden to go after Saddam Hussein.” (Official Campaign Website)
Al Gore:
“He betrayed this country! He played on our fears!” (New York Times)
THEME: Bush is a Dictator
Osama bin Laden:
“What happened was that he was impressed by the monarchies and the military regimes, and he was jealous of them staying in power for tens of years, embezzling the public money without any accountability. And he moved the tyranny and suppression of freedom to his own country, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the disguise of fighting terrorism. And Bush, the father, found it good to install his children as governors and leaders.”
John Kerry:
“Take the Patriot Act. Kerry condemns it fiercely as the stuff of a ‘knock-in-the-night’ police state. He vows ‘to end the era of John Ashcroft’ by ‘replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time.’” (Boston Globe)
Dennis Kucinich, Democratic Presidential Candidate:
“President Bush rammed the “PATRIOT Act” through Congress with virtually no debate. This law poses an unprecedented threat to Americans’ individual freedoms and is a violation of our civil liberties.” (Dennis Kucinich for President, 2004)
Noam Chomsky:
“If George Bush were to be judged by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunals, he’d be hanged.” (BBC comment summing up Noam Chomsky’s views)
THEME: Those Seven Minutes
Osama bin Laden:
“It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the American forces (Bush) would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone at a time when they most needed him because he thought listening to a child discussing her goat and its ramming was more important than the planes and their ramming of the skyscrapers. This had given us three times the time needed to carry out the operations, thanks be to God…”
Kerry campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter:
“John Kerry is not the type of leader who will sit and read ‘My Pet Goat’ to a group of second graders while America is under attack.” (AP)
Fahrenheit 9/11:
“The scene of Bush on the morning of Sept. 11 in Florida reading “My Pet Goat” to second-graders was obtained from the school, which videotaped the president’s visit that day. Bush, informed by his chief of staff that a second jetliner has just struck the World Trade Center, remains seated, his eyes widening. Moore superimposes a clock to illustrate how many minutes ticked by.” (L.A. Times via AZCentral.com)
The Truth:
Michael Moore has made the centerpiece of his attack the claim that Bush sat “like a deer in headlights” for seven minutes after being told of United Airlines Flight 175’s impact into the south tower of the World Trade Center. In fact, during the video you can see President Bush nod slightly as he looks off-camera. It has since been shown that Andrew Card specifically instructed President Bush through the use of a hand-written sign to not take any immediate action in order to allow the Secret Service to re-route the presidential motorcade and take other security precautions, as well as to prevent furthering a national panic. (FahrenHYPE 9/11)
THEME: Copying Each Other’s Speeches
Osama bin Laden:
“Your security is in your own hands and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe.”
John Kerry Campaign Ad titled “Your Hands”, Released Within 24 Hours of the bin Laden Tape:
“Soon the campaign will end, and the election will be in your hands.” (Your Hands)
THEME: Bush Stole the 2000 Election
Osama bin Laden:
“He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn’t forget to transfer his experience from rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.”
John Kerry:
“And he [Kerry] directly accused Republicans of stealing the 2000 election for George W. Bush in a contest that was finally settled by the U.S. Supreme Court, giving the president a 537-vote victory.” (Palm Beach Post via PoliticalWire)
John Kerry:
“This race was stolen from him and from Al Gore and the Democratic Party,” Kerry told a nodding dinner crowd. “They won the race. And to know that you won, and not be inaugurated and not be able to serve is an unbelievable scar to carry.” (Orlando Sentinel, via JohnKerry.com, the Official Campaign Website)
Jesse Jackson:
“Florida is the scene of the crime. It’s what Birmingham and Selma was. This is where the state legislators seek to overthrow the people’s election. This is where Jeb Bush and Katherine (Harris) organized the state to target African-Americans.” (St. Petersburg Times)
THEME: Bush Family Ties to Saudis
Osama bin Laden:
“The resemblance started when [former President George H.W.] Bush, the father, visited the area, when some of our own were impressed by America and were hoping that the visits would affect and influence our countries.”
John Kerry:
“I don’t know if it was a deal, I don’t know if it was a secret pledge, I don’t know if it was just a friendly conversation among friends.” (San Diego Union-Tribune)
Media Fund Campaign Ads:
“The Saudi royal family gets special favors, while our gas prices skyrocket,” an announcer says in one spot as the screen flashes a picture of Crown Prince Abdullah. In another, Mr. Kerry says, “I want an America that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation, not the Saudi royal family.” (New York Times)
Howard Dean:
“The most interesting theory that I’ve heard so far, which is nothing more than a theory, I can’t—think it can’t be proved, is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now, who knows what the real situation is…” (Slate)
Books:
House of Bush, House of Saud
THEME: September 11th Was America’s Fault
Osama bin Laden:
“After the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.”
Noam Chomsky:
Chomsky’s book 9-11 is dedicated to the premise that September 11th was entirely America’s fault. (9-11)
Pew Poll:
51% of Democrats polled said that US “wrongdoing” might have motivated the 9/11 attacks. (Democrats: Its All America’s Fault)
THEME: Bush’s Arrogance
Osama bin Laden:
“We had no difficulty in dealing with Bush and his administration because they resemble the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half by the sons of kings. . . . They have a lot of pride, arrogance, greed and thievery.”
John Kerry:
“Presidential candidate John Kerry Wednesday attacked President Bush’s foreign policy, calling it ‘arrogant, inept, and reckless,’ …” (CNN)
Filed in: 2004 Election, Essays, Terrorism.
Why can Bin Laden still be in the Tape Business?
Because Bush failed to capture him.
Kerry and 9/11: ”You know, my instinct was, Where’s my gun?” Kerry told me. ”How do you fight back? I wanted to do something.”
This is the same rhetoric over and over again. “Bush failed to capture bin Laden.”
Since bin Laden is probably in Iran, I would assume you are thankful that Bush has put us in a position now where, thanks to “[m]ore than 1000 brave american [sic] soldiers” (as you stated on your website) we have Iran completely surrounded.
Why is it that people who slam Bush regarding the War on Terror refuse to admit that they don’t know what they don’t know, and also refuse to look at a basic map of the region?
Assuming Bush is re-elected, Iran will be our next target. The country is on the verge of a civil war. U.S. funding and covert operations can tip it over with minimal loss of U.S. life.
Then who will talk about bin Laden when Bush has freed more than 100 million people (25 million Afghans + 25 million Iraqis + 65 million Iranians) from beneath the bootheel of terrorist thugocracies? That’s more people freed in eight years than Communism killed in nearly 100 years…
As I mentioned below, Osama seemed to be parroting the talking points of the DNC. Others have done extensive posts with detailed comparisons DeadCan’tRant Zombie (via LGF)
>> Why can Bin Laden still be in the Tape Business?
>> Because Bush failed to capture him.
Coalition troops tried earnestly to capture them. They were not successful. I’m much less concerned about that attempt and failure than I am concerned about the fact that when bin Laden was detained in Qatar, and the Clinton administration was told that he could easily be arrested, they declined.
More about those “seven minutes”…
John Kerry, asked about the morning of 9-11 on CNN’s “Larry King Live”:
LARRY KING: Where were you?
JOHN KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We’d just had a meeting–we’d just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle’s office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come into the building [WTC]. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0407/08/lkl.00.html
The second airliner, United Airlines Flight 175, hit the World Trade Center at 9:03am. American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at 9:43am. By Kerry’s own words, he and his fellow senators sat there for forty minutes, realizing “nobody could think.”
Who are you trying to kid? Coalition troops tried to get others to capture him.
Who are you trying to kid? Coalition troops tried to get others to capture him.”
No, how ignorant are you? The U.S. military was using Afghans all over Afghanistan– they were the “coalition”, genius.
They know and did know the territory, and they suffered alot of casualties fighting in literally stinking caves while saving us the trouble, and moreover they were able to move “freely” in those dangerous areas where non-afghans would stick out like a sore thumb and probably be shot on sight. Get a clue. Or does Michael Moore’s credibility count for more with you than Tommy Franks?
And lastly, nobody relevant, certainly not even Senator Rice-in-the-Butt, knows for sure whether OBL was in Tora Bora at that time. That Kerry pretends it is a fact constitutes what is called a “lie”.
osama is in iran.
the iran government allowed him to make a message.
the message was moderated.
he is basicaly saying “if you dont bother us, we wont bother you…”
that meens that he knows hes going down…
we should go in and invade iran…then syria…and so on.
if kerry is elected were all going to die…
If Osama is in Iran, why are we then in Iraq?
Bush thinks about Osama:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/notconcerned.wmv
Sam, you obviously have no concept of strategy whatsoever. I’m sorry, but it’s true. Did you look at the map of the region like I asked you to? Obviously not, or you would have realized instantly why we took out Saddam.
Iraq was a stepping stone to surround Iran. Iran is the number one instigator of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism around the world. Once Iraq is stabilized (another six months to a year, tops — Bush won’t have to worry about re-election and can take off the kid gloves) we will have Afghanistan, Iraq, and pretty much all the *stans above Iran on our side. We already use the *stans as airbases and we have cooperative military agreements with them, training them, etc.
With a couple hundred thousand troops surrounding Iran, and American covert action and dollars supporting an insurrection, Iranians will rise up against the mullahs the same way the French Resistance rose up against the Germans. And if you recall, we armed and trained and led the French Resistance via the OSS, the precursor to the “green berets” — the same folks who, dollars-to-donuts, are in there right now.